Peter Orullian joined us in front of a live audience at Westercon to talk with us about dealing with editors. We usually talk about craft, but this is a business discussion, and it’s about one of the most delicate and important relationships in the business. He begins by telling the short version of the story, and how he managed one of the worst-case scenarios: asking your publisher for a different editor.

We then move into some take-aways, and some additional experiences we’ve had that will hopefully help our listeners manage this sort of thing in the future.




Audiobook Pick-of-the-Week: Unfettered: Tales by Masters of Fantasy, Written by: Terry Brooks, Patrick Rothfuss, Robert Jordan, Jacqueline Carey, R.A. Salvatore, Naomi Novik, Peter V. Brett, Shawn Speakman (editor) Narrated by: Peter Ganim, Marc Vietor, Bronson Pinchot, Jay Snyder

Writing Prompt: Write a sword-fighting scene, a la Princess Bride, in which the witticisms are part of a magic system, and are part of the fight itself.

This episode of Writing Excuses has been brought to you by Audible.

Visit for a free trial membership.

Audible Free Trial Details

Get an audiobook of your choice, free, with a 30-day trial. After the trial, your paid membership will begin at $14.95 per month. With your membership, you will receive one credit every month, good for any audiobook on Audible.

Cancel anytime, effective the next monthly billing cycle. Cancel before your trial ends and you will not be charged. Check out the full terms and policies that apply to Audible membership.

This entry was posted on Sunday, August 24th, 2014 at 5:11 pm and is filed under Career and Lifestyle, Guest, Live Audience, Season 9. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. Both comments and pings are currently closed.


  1. August 25, 2014 @ 7:09 am

    That’s another advantage to self-publishing: if you and your editor are a bad match, you can fire them and hire someone else. It’s your career, and you are at the top of the command chain.

    Posted by Joe Vasicek
  2. August 25, 2014 @ 7:51 pm

    I think something that wasn’t quite emphasis enough (but is in earlier podcast), an editor brings a lot to the table. Trying to publish without the type of review they bring can be risky.

    Posted by Daniel
  3. August 26, 2014 @ 2:16 pm

    It seems even Shakespeare had serious arguments with his editor.

    Hope you’ll enjoy it and maybe even find some hidden meaning.

    Posted by Tomas
  4. August 26, 2014 @ 8:36 pm

    “Keep your eyes on the stars and your feet on the ground.” Theodore Roosevelt

    Working with people is one of the essential arts of the writer? Well, at least with an editor…

    And here’s the transcript! All those words to read.

    Also available in the archives. So, no excuses — just go write!

    Posted by 'nother Mike
  5. August 27, 2014 @ 7:53 am

    As a long time listener, I implore you to stop having audiences scream and/or Howard do that screeching thing. I’m usually listening to these when doing the dishes or something else where my hands are occupied to where I can’t pull out my headphones quick enough, and even when I can it is still annoying and actually hurts my ears. My ears can’t take it anymore. This is the third episode I have listened to in succession [the others were picked from the archives] where this has happened. It’s like someone yelling directly into your ear. Please!

    Posted by Derth Nadir
  6. August 27, 2014 @ 10:59 am

    You’re absolutely right. This episode was especially bad for levels, but ALL episodes have issues. I’ve passed this along to the rest of the crew.

    Posted by Howard Tayler
  7. August 29, 2014 @ 4:49 am

    Regarding the writing prompt… Cyrano de Bergerac is the most powerful wizard in history.

    Posted by D
  8. August 29, 2014 @ 6:56 am

    Thank you, Howard. :)

    Posted by Derth Nadir