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	<title>Comments on: Writing Excuses 4.5: Roleplaying Games as Tools for Story Telling</title>
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		<title>By: Chuckabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuckabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually do a specific kind of roleplaying where me and a bunch of my friends get together and write a story using various 
POVs. We use a forum and set up a bunch of characters and setting and stuff. Very often it&#039;s fanfiction with self-insertion, simply because we want to put ourselves into the world an author has created. So we&#039;ve done Hunger Games once (ended awfully) and Harry Potter (which is thriving but currently stagnant), but we&#039;ve also done an original called Nikomedes. We often get together on chat to do planning, and get to have loads of nice feedback on individual posts as well.

I&#039;ve been doing this since sixth grade, and working together with people to build a world and a story has increased my skills as a writer DRASTICALLY. Not only that, but it&#039;s tremendous fun. Not that anyone&#039;s ever going to read this post, but here&#039;s a link to our harry potter forum if you&#039;d care to read any of it!

http://atroveoftales.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=roleplayhp&amp;action=display&amp;thread=22

I strongly suggest starting something like this with some of your own friends! It&#039;s one of the most fun things you can do online. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually do a specific kind of roleplaying where me and a bunch of my friends get together and write a story using various<br />
POVs. We use a forum and set up a bunch of characters and setting and stuff. Very often it&#8217;s fanfiction with self-insertion, simply because we want to put ourselves into the world an author has created. So we&#8217;ve done Hunger Games once (ended awfully) and Harry Potter (which is thriving but currently stagnant), but we&#8217;ve also done an original called Nikomedes. We often get together on chat to do planning, and get to have loads of nice feedback on individual posts as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been doing this since sixth grade, and working together with people to build a world and a story has increased my skills as a writer DRASTICALLY. Not only that, but it&#8217;s tremendous fun. Not that anyone&#8217;s ever going to read this post, but here&#8217;s a link to our harry potter forum if you&#8217;d care to read any of it!</p>
<p><a href="http://atroveoftales.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=roleplayhp&#038;action=display&#038;thread=22" rel="nofollow">http://atroveoftales.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=roleplayhp&#038;action=display&#038;thread=22</a></p>
<p>I strongly suggest starting something like this with some of your own friends! It&#8217;s one of the most fun things you can do online. <img src='http://www.writingexcuses.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Writing Excuses 4.18: How to Steal for Fun and Profit &#187; Writing Excuses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writing Excuses 4.18: How to Steal for Fun and Profit &#187; Writing Excuses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 00:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] before, we&#8217;ve discussed genre-blending, and we&#8217;ve talked about where ideas come from. Now we&#8217;re going to blend all of those in one &#8216;cast as we talk about stealing stuff [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] before, we&#8217;ve discussed genre-blending, and we&#8217;ve talked about where ideas come from. Now we&#8217;re going to blend all of those in one &#8216;cast as we talk about stealing stuff [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tami Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tami Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another note: I know this pod cast isn&#039;t about influence, but it still helped me as did the influence podcast. XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another note: I know this pod cast isn&#8217;t about influence, but it still helped me as did the influence podcast. XD</p>
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		<title>By: Tami Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tami Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[rant] I am also LDS and do play RPGs (Dungeons and Dragons 4ed., Exalted, BESM, Star Wars) and I only partially understand the stigma these types of games have (some bad apple group some where at some time, vague, I know, ruined it for the rest of us RPG loving geeks), but if people who are against these kind of games compared them what TV/Movie/Broadway performers do they will find the basic concept is the same: A group of people gathered together to role play a character.  The difference: they have a script, those who play RPGs don&#039;t. There are other differences too, but I&#039;m not going to get into them. [/rant]

One of my concerns about playing RPGs and writing has been that the elements some of the RPG worlds I have been introduced to would influence my writing.  For example, I have noticed some similarities between the world of Exalted and my current series.  My disclaimer is this: I&#039;ve been working 0n my current series since my senior year in high school (I graduated in 1996) and I didn&#039;t start playing Exalted until I was in college (I started college in 2002).  I know, when and if, I get this series published some readers, who also happen to play Exalted, will say I have ripped some ideas from the Exalted world.  But despite these fears, I&#039;m still rolling with the ideas. Listening to this podcast laid those fears to rest.  

Note: I know fourteen years is a long time to be working on a series, but the series has evolved over the years and I&#039;ve come up with other book ideas.  Some YA, one thriller type, and a few geared toward high school and higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[rant] I am also LDS and do play RPGs (Dungeons and Dragons 4ed., Exalted, BESM, Star Wars) and I only partially understand the stigma these types of games have (some bad apple group some where at some time, vague, I know, ruined it for the rest of us RPG loving geeks), but if people who are against these kind of games compared them what TV/Movie/Broadway performers do they will find the basic concept is the same: A group of people gathered together to role play a character.  The difference: they have a script, those who play RPGs don&#8217;t. There are other differences too, but I&#8217;m not going to get into them. [/rant]</p>
<p>One of my concerns about playing RPGs and writing has been that the elements some of the RPG worlds I have been introduced to would influence my writing.  For example, I have noticed some similarities between the world of Exalted and my current series.  My disclaimer is this: I&#8217;ve been working 0n my current series since my senior year in high school (I graduated in 1996) and I didn&#8217;t start playing Exalted until I was in college (I started college in 2002).  I know, when and if, I get this series published some readers, who also happen to play Exalted, will say I have ripped some ideas from the Exalted world.  But despite these fears, I&#8217;m still rolling with the ideas. Listening to this podcast laid those fears to rest.  </p>
<p>Note: I know fourteen years is a long time to be working on a series, but the series has evolved over the years and I&#8217;ve come up with other book ideas.  Some YA, one thriller type, and a few geared toward high school and higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I took your advise and listened to The Nation by Terry Pratchett. You are right, he has a very distinct &quot;voice&quot; when he writes. He makes me realize I need I find my voice in my writing. I have half way done with my first novel. Thanks for the motivation guys. Never would have started without you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I took your advise and listened to The Nation by Terry Pratchett. You are right, he has a very distinct &#8220;voice&#8221; when he writes. He makes me realize I need I find my voice in my writing. I have half way done with my first novel. Thanks for the motivation guys. Never would have started without you!</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Tayler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Tayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;@Curto&lt;/B&gt;: Your friend does more work on the RPG than he would writing a novel because he finds RPG play to be more fulfilling. It&#039;s a social activity, and the shared storytelling is always surprising.

Which is why it&#039;s NO surprise that many of the very best Game Masters are World Builders par excellence, but can&#039;t be persuaded to try their hands at a novel. Writing is a solitary pursuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Curto</b>: Your friend does more work on the RPG than he would writing a novel because he finds RPG play to be more fulfilling. It&#8217;s a social activity, and the shared storytelling is always surprising.</p>
<p>Which is why it&#8217;s NO surprise that many of the very best Game Masters are World Builders par excellence, but can&#8217;t be persuaded to try their hands at a novel. Writing is a solitary pursuit.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Absalonson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Absalonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly only role playing I&#039;ve ever done was playing Mario RPG on the SNES, but I know it&#039;s something I would love to do, but I still got a whole lot of great stuff out of this podcast, thanks guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly only role playing I&#8217;ve ever done was playing Mario RPG on the SNES, but I know it&#8217;s something I would love to do, but I still got a whole lot of great stuff out of this podcast, thanks guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Curto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick comment on the division of Church and D&amp;D.

Younger brothers friend couldn&#039;t play D&amp;D because Mother thaought it lead to devil worship.  She wanted her so to hear it from someone inside the church so one Sunday, a few decades ago, she brought him up to the Deacon and told him of her dilemma.  He told he in from to her son that He couldn&#039;t help her as He and the current priest were players in a roleplaying group run by one of the other members of the church.  Wasn&#039;t enough to stop her from forbidding him to play D&amp;D but my brother was able to incude his friend in the &#039;Top Secret&quot; and Traveller campaigns, that were also going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick comment on the division of Church and D&amp;D.</p>
<p>Younger brothers friend couldn&#8217;t play D&amp;D because Mother thaought it lead to devil worship.  She wanted her so to hear it from someone inside the church so one Sunday, a few decades ago, she brought him up to the Deacon and told him of her dilemma.  He told he in from to her son that He couldn&#8217;t help her as He and the current priest were players in a roleplaying group run by one of the other members of the church.  Wasn&#8217;t enough to stop her from forbidding him to play D&amp;D but my brother was able to incude his friend in the &#8216;Top Secret&#8221; and Traveller campaigns, that were also going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Curto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for another great session.

I&#039;ve been roleplaying since &#039;77, back when roleplaying was all about dungeon crawls.  But even then I was lucky enough to be in a group (Of fellow High schoolers) who demanded backstory, motivation, and and a true sense of risk; long before D&amp;D had rules and guides to help us do these things.  Heck, when I start a campaign not only do I at least outline the histories of the land; I work out the plate techtonics so that my mountain ranges make at least some sense.  My group has added new blood as some of us have gone afar and 2 dear friends have passed away.  Where is this leading ...

I have a friend, who for the last 3 years has been leading a small party of us on the most complete roleplaying experience in my 33 years of playing and GM&#039;ing.  How do I get him away from the game, and get him writing?  He has all the tools of pacing, plot, building dynamic tension, originality, character growth, catharsis, ... well, you guys understand where I&#039;m going.

The other player in his &#039;interactive novel&#039; agrees with me.  We are willing to stop the campaign (A true sacrifice) to let him put this opus to pen (er ... laptop) but he shrugs us off.  He says writing is too much work, then he puts in 20 to 25 hours weekly into his 2 campaigns (he also does one for his nephews, and niece).  He&#039;s failed his perception die roll.  I told him of this topic from your site to prove that writers can still role-play, in moderation at least.  Alas, I&#039;ll continue to write and try to improve, but my current GM is a writer that may never find the spark to actually do so.   How can I get across the concept of the multi-class character:  GM/Writer?  How do you break a person not out of the standard &quot;afraid to fail&quot; mode but out of his &quot;afraid to succeed&#039; habit?

Of course, I&#039;m asuming that like me, his craving to roleplay and especially GM all these decades is because that deep inside his soul, that there is some ember of a writer waiting to be fanned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for another great session.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been roleplaying since &#8217;77, back when roleplaying was all about dungeon crawls.  But even then I was lucky enough to be in a group (Of fellow High schoolers) who demanded backstory, motivation, and and a true sense of risk; long before D&amp;D had rules and guides to help us do these things.  Heck, when I start a campaign not only do I at least outline the histories of the land; I work out the plate techtonics so that my mountain ranges make at least some sense.  My group has added new blood as some of us have gone afar and 2 dear friends have passed away.  Where is this leading &#8230;</p>
<p>I have a friend, who for the last 3 years has been leading a small party of us on the most complete roleplaying experience in my 33 years of playing and GM&#8217;ing.  How do I get him away from the game, and get him writing?  He has all the tools of pacing, plot, building dynamic tension, originality, character growth, catharsis, &#8230; well, you guys understand where I&#8217;m going.</p>
<p>The other player in his &#8216;interactive novel&#8217; agrees with me.  We are willing to stop the campaign (A true sacrifice) to let him put this opus to pen (er &#8230; laptop) but he shrugs us off.  He says writing is too much work, then he puts in 20 to 25 hours weekly into his 2 campaigns (he also does one for his nephews, and niece).  He&#8217;s failed his perception die roll.  I told him of this topic from your site to prove that writers can still role-play, in moderation at least.  Alas, I&#8217;ll continue to write and try to improve, but my current GM is a writer that may never find the spark to actually do so.   How can I get across the concept of the multi-class character:  GM/Writer?  How do you break a person not out of the standard &#8220;afraid to fail&#8221; mode but out of his &#8220;afraid to succeed&#8217; habit?</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m asuming that like me, his craving to roleplay and especially GM all these decades is because that deep inside his soul, that there is some ember of a writer waiting to be fanned.</p>
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		<title>By: Raethe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raethe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Suvudu, and vaguely relevant: 

http://www.suvudu.com/2010/02/writers-reminisce-about-dungeons-dragons.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Suvudu, and vaguely relevant: </p>
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