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	<title>Comments on: Writing Excuses Season 3 Episode 10: The Dos and Don&#8217;ts of Attending Cons</title>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of interaction would you suggest for people like me, who are aspiring authors, but not at the point where we are publishable, or even passable? I&#039;m in high school and have the opportunity to attend a con, so most of this podcast doesn&#039;t really seem to be too applicable. What things annoy you that I should avoid? How should I talk to people like yourselves that I look up to, and show that I am serious and not a bumbling fan girl but yet miles away from being awesome? I am an aspiring writer and don&#039;t want to look a fool. Anyway, I know it is rather a long shot that this will get answered, as this ep is years old, but I thought I&#039;d give it a shot. Thank you for your time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of interaction would you suggest for people like me, who are aspiring authors, but not at the point where we are publishable, or even passable? I&#8217;m in high school and have the opportunity to attend a con, so most of this podcast doesn&#8217;t really seem to be too applicable. What things annoy you that I should avoid? How should I talk to people like yourselves that I look up to, and show that I am serious and not a bumbling fan girl but yet miles away from being awesome? I am an aspiring writer and don&#8217;t want to look a fool. Anyway, I know it is rather a long shot that this will get answered, as this ep is years old, but I thought I&#8217;d give it a shot. Thank you for your time!</p>
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		<title>By: Query Week: Alternatives to Queriying &#171; Neither Here nor There&#8230;.</title>
		<link>http://www.writingexcuses.com/2009/08/02/writing-excuses-season-3-episode-10-the-dos-and-donts-of-attending-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-38450</link>
		<dc:creator>Query Week: Alternatives to Queriying &#171; Neither Here nor There&#8230;.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Conventions are a great place to meet agents, editors and fellow writers.  Of course you need to thread carefully around these folks. You are one of hundreds, if not thousands of people with pitches for the next Harry Potter, or Twilight.  A respectful, professional (don&#8217; forget the soap and go easy on the drinks) and confident attitude will go along way. Instead of engaging these folks as a used car salesman, do it as a researcher. Ask questions about the industry, the market, what are they looking for, upcoming market trends, etc. You can get a lot of info that can then go into your querying.  Leaving a good impression can go a long way when you then contact that agent later on (but remain professional in all communications, this is a professional relationship, even if you payed the man&#8217;s tab at the hotel bar). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Conventions are a great place to meet agents, editors and fellow writers.  Of course you need to thread carefully around these folks. You are one of hundreds, if not thousands of people with pitches for the next Harry Potter, or Twilight.  A respectful, professional (don&#8217; forget the soap and go easy on the drinks) and confident attitude will go along way. Instead of engaging these folks as a used car salesman, do it as a researcher. Ask questions about the industry, the market, what are they looking for, upcoming market trends, etc. You can get a lot of info that can then go into your querying.  Leaving a good impression can go a long way when you then contact that agent later on (but remain professional in all communications, this is a professional relationship, even if you payed the man&#8217;s tab at the hotel bar). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Inkhaven &#187; Blog Archive</title>
		<link>http://www.writingexcuses.com/2009/08/02/writing-excuses-season-3-episode-10-the-dos-and-donts-of-attending-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-36717</link>
		<dc:creator>Inkhaven &#187; Blog Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to John of mindonfire.com for a great link to Writing Excuses and their episode on not making an ass of yourself at conventions. I took the wardrobe advice seriously and fortified my nearly all jeans-and-t-shirts collection to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to John of mindonfire.com for a great link to Writing Excuses and their episode on not making an ass of yourself at conventions. I took the wardrobe advice seriously and fortified my nearly all jeans-and-t-shirts collection to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Podcast alert &#171; STEVENHARTSITE</title>
		<link>http://www.writingexcuses.com/2009/08/02/writing-excuses-season-3-episode-10-the-dos-and-donts-of-attending-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-36391</link>
		<dc:creator>Podcast alert &#171; STEVENHARTSITE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which the meaning of &#8220;booth barnacle&#8221; is made clear. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Writer talkWho let all those Jersey people into [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which the meaning of &#8220;booth barnacle&#8221; is made clear. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Writer talkWho let all those Jersey people into [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clifton Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.writingexcuses.com/2009/08/02/writing-excuses-season-3-episode-10-the-dos-and-donts-of-attending-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-35956</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifton Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having the transcripts is nice, but I think it would be nice to have a comprehensive piece of reference result one day too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having the transcripts is nice, but I think it would be nice to have a comprehensive piece of reference result one day too.</p>
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		<title>By: John Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AlanHorne,

It wasn&#039;t so much to keep track of rejections but to know who I had sent stuff out to and if they&#039;d replied and whether I&#039;d sent out the next bit to them. But I also needed to know specifically who had asked for more and how much when I&#039;d sent it because some agents want exclusive looks. For example, agent Y asked for an exclusive with the whole mss. Because I was keeping track in a spreadsheet I could quickly see if I had a whole mss. out or just some partials. And if the whole had been out, how long was it? Usually the agents would say give me X amount of time to read this. If it was close to X, I could prod them--&quot;I have another agent wanting this, but I promised you an exclusive. Do you have an idea when you might be finished so I can coordinate with the other agent?&quot; I also used this information with the requesting agents, saying, &quot;I&#039;d love to send you the full mss. but there are two other agents reading it right now. Would you be okay with a non-exclusive look or should I wait?&quot; Knowing other agents are interested and reading only increases the perceived value of the product. And records helped me keep track. 

This is business. Records come in very handy. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AlanHorne,</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t so much to keep track of rejections but to know who I had sent stuff out to and if they&#8217;d replied and whether I&#8217;d sent out the next bit to them. But I also needed to know specifically who had asked for more and how much when I&#8217;d sent it because some agents want exclusive looks. For example, agent Y asked for an exclusive with the whole mss. Because I was keeping track in a spreadsheet I could quickly see if I had a whole mss. out or just some partials. And if the whole had been out, how long was it? Usually the agents would say give me X amount of time to read this. If it was close to X, I could prod them&#8211;&#8221;I have another agent wanting this, but I promised you an exclusive. Do you have an idea when you might be finished so I can coordinate with the other agent?&#8221; I also used this information with the requesting agents, saying, &#8220;I&#8217;d love to send you the full mss. but there are two other agents reading it right now. Would you be okay with a non-exclusive look or should I wait?&#8221; Knowing other agents are interested and reading only increases the perceived value of the product. And records helped me keep track. </p>
<p>This is business. Records come in very handy. <img src='http://www.writingexcuses.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AlanHorne</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlanHorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m surprised anyone kept detailed statistics about their rejection letters.  But moving on doesn&#039;t necessarily mean you have to start a brand new book.  If you can see things in your current book that could be changed in such a way that it transforms the work and makes it more tempting to readers, why not do a rewrite?  I&#039;m rewriting a book right now, and I have got to say that, while it&#039;s been a long process, the improvements ROCK!!!  It&#039;s just so much fun to see a good book get changed into a great book.  And you may have to do that before editors/agents can see how good the book always was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m surprised anyone kept detailed statistics about their rejection letters.  But moving on doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean you have to start a brand new book.  If you can see things in your current book that could be changed in such a way that it transforms the work and makes it more tempting to readers, why not do a rewrite?  I&#8217;m rewriting a book right now, and I have got to say that, while it&#8217;s been a long process, the improvements ROCK!!!  It&#8217;s just so much fun to see a good book get changed into a great book.  And you may have to do that before editors/agents can see how good the book always was.</p>
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		<title>By: Evergreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evergreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is unrelated to the topic, but John I was just read through your site and it says you got deals for 120k-140k, which seems kind of short for epic fantasy.  How many pages is that?  I am stilling thinking about getting your book, but I might wait for the paperbacks just because  personally I am tired of waiting around for a series to finish when there are so many completed series already.  Good luck to you, and maybe if I ever get my book sold you&#039;ll end up being one of my advance professional readers, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is unrelated to the topic, but John I was just read through your site and it says you got deals for 120k-140k, which seems kind of short for epic fantasy.  How many pages is that?  I am stilling thinking about getting your book, but I might wait for the paperbacks just because  personally I am tired of waiting around for a series to finish when there are so many completed series already.  Good luck to you, and maybe if I ever get my book sold you&#8217;ll end up being one of my advance professional readers, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Raethe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raethe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John makes a good point. Of course, before you move on you might want to check what their response policy is. If they say they respond to every submission  and you haven&#039;t gotten a response after the appropriate period, you can always resend. (Which doesn&#039;t preclude you moving on to others at the same time, necessarily...)

Of course, John&#039;s agented and published, so you should probably listen to him before me. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John makes a good point. Of course, before you move on you might want to check what their response policy is. If they say they respond to every submission  and you haven&#8217;t gotten a response after the appropriate period, you can always resend. (Which doesn&#8217;t preclude you moving on to others at the same time, necessarily&#8230;)</p>
<p>Of course, John&#8217;s agented and published, so you should probably listen to him before me. <img src='http://www.writingexcuses.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I&#039;d never do this.

&lt;i&gt;After that time has passed, if your rejection letter still has not arrived, wait one more day, then send an update request postcard and reset the wait time cycle.&lt;/i&gt;

I know, I know. Some do get lost. I actually checked on a mss. at IGMS and it ended up in a sale. But I figure with agents life&#039;s too short. Why chase people who don&#039;t want what you have to sell? Or who are so freaking slow you&#039;ll be a grandma before they get back to you? Move on, brother. Move on. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I&#8217;d never do this.</p>
<p><i>After that time has passed, if your rejection letter still has not arrived, wait one more day, then send an update request postcard and reset the wait time cycle.</i></p>
<p>I know, I know. Some do get lost. I actually checked on a mss. at IGMS and it ended up in a sale. But I figure with agents life&#8217;s too short. Why chase people who don&#8217;t want what you have to sell? Or who are so freaking slow you&#8217;ll be a grandma before they get back to you? Move on, brother. Move on. <img src='http://www.writingexcuses.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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