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	<title>Comments on: Writing Excuses Episode 24: Research</title>
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		<title>By: Catching the Research Bug &#171; Sturm und Drang</title>
		<link>http://www.writingexcuses.com/2008/07/20/writing-excuses-episode-24-research/comment-page-1/#comment-35848</link>
		<dc:creator>Catching the Research Bug &#171; Sturm und Drang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mining. Looking for concepts, names, that sort of thing. This is not in-depth research (I mean wikis, really). I just want enough to give my current project some depth beyond the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mining. Looking for concepts, names, that sort of thing. This is not in-depth research (I mean wikis, really). I just want enough to give my current project some depth beyond the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.writingexcuses.com/2008/07/20/writing-excuses-episode-24-research/comment-page-1/#comment-8861</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the current, tentative schedule:

March &#039;09: Book 1 comes out in the UK
Oct &#039;09: Book 1 comes out on Germany
April &#039;10: Book 1 comes out in the US

This could change, but it&#039;s not likely to get any quicker than that. The good news is that the books will come out very quickly in the US--about 6 months apart. So you&#039;ll have a big wait for the first one, but very little wait for the others. Though of course it will SEEM like forever, because you&#039;ll be desperate for more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the current, tentative schedule:</p>
<p>March &#8217;09: Book 1 comes out in the UK<br />
Oct &#8217;09: Book 1 comes out on Germany<br />
April &#8217;10: Book 1 comes out in the US</p>
<p>This could change, but it&#8217;s not likely to get any quicker than that. The good news is that the books will come out very quickly in the US&#8211;about 6 months apart. So you&#8217;ll have a big wait for the first one, but very little wait for the others. Though of course it will SEEM like forever, because you&#8217;ll be desperate for more.</p>
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		<title>By: Callisto</title>
		<link>http://www.writingexcuses.com/2008/07/20/writing-excuses-episode-24-research/comment-page-1/#comment-8673</link>
		<dc:creator>Callisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eliyanna, looks like you and I make at least two fangirls here!  For a while I thought I was the only one, but I am relieved to see you, too, share my fangirlish tendencies.  Woot and hooray for buying Dan bacon!  *does a silly fangirl dance*  Hope my stuff gets to you soon, Dan.  Also, for Howard and Brandon, I&#039;m a fan of you, too!  Rest assured that had you guys asked for bacon or any other unusual foodstuffs-themed products, I&#039;d have pitched in.

ps.  Is there a release date for &quot;I Am Not a Serial Killer&quot; yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eliyanna, looks like you and I make at least two fangirls here!  For a while I thought I was the only one, but I am relieved to see you, too, share my fangirlish tendencies.  Woot and hooray for buying Dan bacon!  *does a silly fangirl dance*  Hope my stuff gets to you soon, Dan.  Also, for Howard and Brandon, I&#8217;m a fan of you, too!  Rest assured that had you guys asked for bacon or any other unusual foodstuffs-themed products, I&#8217;d have pitched in.</p>
<p>ps.  Is there a release date for &#8220;I Am Not a Serial Killer&#8221; yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.writingexcuses.com/2008/07/20/writing-excuses-episode-24-research/comment-page-1/#comment-8442</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan was pretty good at horses. They get tired, they need lots of tending. 

I remember a scene New Spring where the character Lan does a tactical march with horses and paces them by having the soldiers spend time on foot and changing speeds. It was pretty casual, but oddly, as someone who has never ridden a horse, I never really thought about how a long march involving horses would be done and the logistics. 

It was amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan was pretty good at horses. They get tired, they need lots of tending. </p>
<p>I remember a scene New Spring where the character Lan does a tactical march with horses and paces them by having the soldiers spend time on foot and changing speeds. It was pretty casual, but oddly, as someone who has never ridden a horse, I never really thought about how a long march involving horses would be done and the logistics. </p>
<p>It was amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alastair:

Thanks thats what I&#039;m working on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alastair:</p>
<p>Thanks thats what I&#8217;m working on.</p>
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		<title>By: AJWM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJWM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben :   Post-apocalyptic vampire books?  The classic has to be Richard Matheson&#039;s &quot;I Am Legend&quot;, yes, the book the Will Smith movie was based on.  As have two other movies before it: &quot;Omega Man&quot; with Charleton Heston and &quot;The Last Man on Earth&quot; with Vincent Price.

Mind, since those vampires are biologically explained rather than the supernatural sort, it may not be quite what you&#039;re looking for.    That&#039;s not an area I focus on  -- I&#039;m more an SF fan (go Schlock Mercenaries!) -- so I&#039;m not aware of any others.

When you think about it, though, an apocalypse is going to severely impact the number of vampires around (unless it&#039;s something like Matheson&#039;s plague) due to the predator-prey relationship and the crash in the prey population.   And there might be a story in that.   (Help yourself - I&#039;ve got too much on my plate right now.)

- Alastair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben :   Post-apocalyptic vampire books?  The classic has to be Richard Matheson&#8217;s &#8220;I Am Legend&#8221;, yes, the book the Will Smith movie was based on.  As have two other movies before it: &#8220;Omega Man&#8221; with Charleton Heston and &#8220;The Last Man on Earth&#8221; with Vincent Price.</p>
<p>Mind, since those vampires are biologically explained rather than the supernatural sort, it may not be quite what you&#8217;re looking for.    That&#8217;s not an area I focus on  &#8212; I&#8217;m more an SF fan (go Schlock Mercenaries!) &#8212; so I&#8217;m not aware of any others.</p>
<p>When you think about it, though, an apocalypse is going to severely impact the number of vampires around (unless it&#8217;s something like Matheson&#8217;s plague) due to the predator-prey relationship and the crash in the prey population.   And there might be a story in that.   (Help yourself &#8211; I&#8217;ve got too much on my plate right now.)</p>
<p>- Alastair</p>
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		<title>By: John Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Research provides me with one of my best sources of ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Research provides me with one of my best sources of ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Barker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl: Call me Mike, Mr. Barker makes me wonder what I did wrong. I live in Japan, near Nara. Thanks, John. Interesting thought that when the smoke and mirrors get thin, that&#039;s where you do the touches of research -- or Brandon&#039;s key battles. Also a good reminder to focus on what&#039;s important for this book or story. It is easy to get lost doing research and forget to keep the goal in mind. Heck, research can be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl: Call me Mike, Mr. Barker makes me wonder what I did wrong. I live in Japan, near Nara. Thanks, John. Interesting thought that when the smoke and mirrors get thin, that&#8217;s where you do the touches of research &#8212; or Brandon&#8217;s key battles. Also a good reminder to focus on what&#8217;s important for this book or story. It is easy to get lost doing research and forget to keep the goal in mind. Heck, research can be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: John Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eliyanna,

You&#039;re right, Brandon did indicate there were people who did do research. I guess it was the comments in the beginning I was focusing on that seemed to color the discussion of epic fantasy thereafter. Research is a marvelous and important tool for story. I just got the general feeling that epic fantasy writers could and should avoid it.

Mike,

King&#039;s key points are as follows:

1. &quot;I think story belongs in front, but some research is inevitable; you shirk it at your peril.&quot;

2.  &quot;I  knew absoluetly zilch about the Pennsylvania State Police, for one thing--but I didn&#039;t let any of that bother me. I simply made up all the stuff I didn&#039;t know. I could do that because I was writing with the door shut--writing only for myself and the Idea Reader in my mind.

...but I eventually hope and expect to spend a couple of weeks in western Pennsylvania, where I&#039;ve been given conditional permission to do some ridealongs with the State Police

...Once I&#039;ve done that, I should be able to correct the worst of my howleers and add some really nice detail work.

Not much, though: research is back story, and the key word in back story is back. The tale I have to tell in Buick Eight has to do with monsters and secrets. It is not a story about police procedure in western Pennsylvania. What I&#039;m looking for is nothing but a touch of verisimilitude&quot;

There&#039;s more. A lot of interesting insight into his process. It appears if he can&#039;t do the smoke and mirrors as Brandon suggested, then he makes sure he does the research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eliyanna,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, Brandon did indicate there were people who did do research. I guess it was the comments in the beginning I was focusing on that seemed to color the discussion of epic fantasy thereafter. Research is a marvelous and important tool for story. I just got the general feeling that epic fantasy writers could and should avoid it.</p>
<p>Mike,</p>
<p>King&#8217;s key points are as follows:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;I think story belongs in front, but some research is inevitable; you shirk it at your peril.&#8221;</p>
<p>2.  &#8220;I  knew absoluetly zilch about the Pennsylvania State Police, for one thing&#8211;but I didn&#8217;t let any of that bother me. I simply made up all the stuff I didn&#8217;t know. I could do that because I was writing with the door shut&#8211;writing only for myself and the Idea Reader in my mind.</p>
<p>&#8230;but I eventually hope and expect to spend a couple of weeks in western Pennsylvania, where I&#8217;ve been given conditional permission to do some ridealongs with the State Police</p>
<p>&#8230;Once I&#8217;ve done that, I should be able to correct the worst of my howleers and add some really nice detail work.</p>
<p>Not much, though: research is back story, and the key word in back story is back. The tale I have to tell in Buick Eight has to do with monsters and secrets. It is not a story about police procedure in western Pennsylvania. What I&#8217;m looking for is nothing but a touch of verisimilitude&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more. A lot of interesting insight into his process. It appears if he can&#8217;t do the smoke and mirrors as Brandon suggested, then he makes sure he does the research.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get the feeling anyone was saying that epic fantasy is loosey goosey, just that you can get away with more because of the expectations of the market (readers). 

But Brandon spent some time on a really concrete example of meticulous research in epic fantasy. As scene from a Wheel of Time book by Robert Jordan&#039;s where Perrin pauses from being a hero to make something in a blacksmith&#039;s shop. I went back and read it after the podcast because I always loved the scene and Brandon describing it brought it back for me the way hearing a snippet of a song on a radio does (gotta play the whole thing to get it out of your mind!). Anyway, there was tons of research done to get that scene right and that&#039;s why it was raised as an epic fantasy example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get the feeling anyone was saying that epic fantasy is loosey goosey, just that you can get away with more because of the expectations of the market (readers). </p>
<p>But Brandon spent some time on a really concrete example of meticulous research in epic fantasy. As scene from a Wheel of Time book by Robert Jordan&#8217;s where Perrin pauses from being a hero to make something in a blacksmith&#8217;s shop. I went back and read it after the podcast because I always loved the scene and Brandon describing it brought it back for me the way hearing a snippet of a song on a radio does (gotta play the whole thing to get it out of your mind!). Anyway, there was tons of research done to get that scene right and that&#8217;s why it was raised as an epic fantasy example.</p>
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